Posts by Jonathan Drake

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Pic of pinky ring

by Jonathan Drake in

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i realize i made a thread about this already but it was buried and i'm hoping to get some attention.

if they should be merged i apologize.. .

can anyone make out the inscribed shape?

Jonathan Drake

@ searcher

Thats what I'm trying to determine. After careful examination I can see two possibilities:

1. It's the Masonic cross key:

2. It's a weird looking number 41, with 1 linked to the 4 at the cross line of 4.

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Pic of pinky ring

by Jonathan Drake in

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friends

i realize i made a thread about this already but it was buried and i'm hoping to get some attention.

if they should be merged i apologize.. .

can anyone make out the inscribed shape?

Jonathan Drake

I realize I made a thread about this already but it was buried and I'm hoping to get some attention. If they should be merged I apologize.

Can anyone make out the inscribed shape? I thought it was Hebrew lettering but i no longer do. There is no stone, only that weird engraving.

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The rings

by Jonathan Drake in

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i'm sure someone somewhere has asked this question, but along with the contempt written on morris face i've also noticed the club ring.

im sure you've all noticed it.

does anyone have any insider information on the gold rings they where?

Jonathan Drake

Anyone willing I'd appreciate an opinion...

ive spent some time today comparing the rings on their right ring and pinky fingers. I've found the pinky rings have symbology engraved on them. You can see this by comparing the shape on the rings (only clear way to see them is JW broadcast) with the Tetragrammaton symbology here: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/davinci-freemason.php

engraved either in the center or around the mounting if there is a stone is a letter of the Tetragrammaton. Herd has the first letter in the Hebrew portion, the fellow with the red stone in one video with the music video appears to have the last letter of the bebrew. I'm not certain about this next bit, but I think Anthony Morris has the O from the Greek Greek on his ring (compare the pic on jwfacts). im more than 90 percent sure but I can't see it clearly.

This is to me indicates that the rings do serve a purpose beyond being bling, and if I'm right they serve to represent, at the very least, a ranking system in the GB and GB helpers.

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Sam's watch

by Slidin Fast in

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i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.

(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).

yep it's his rolex.

Jonathan Drake

His watch definitely has a blue V at the 12 o'clock.

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

Jonathan Drake

There are some serious errors and evident lack of biblical as well as biblical era cultural knowledge in both of these posts.

Im not going to get into it though. If you'd like to know the proper perspective I'm willing to supply the verses with explanation.

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I was shy on my first JW.ORG Video, I am so happy sharing God's Organization with you!

by JWCart1975 in

jw.org is the fastest growing media outlet in the world, our local cobe said we are going to take the media from satan's wicked world!

repent before it's too late and come back to the kingdom hall with all your loving brothers and sisters!

you won't find happiness without jehovah's organization and you know it!

Jonathan Drake

Please return before it's too late

What at happens if I don't return? You believe I will die. You therefore judge all who are not JW as deserving of death. But in John 5 it says not even the almighty judges anyone at all, only the Christ. Sounds like you're overstepping your bounds to me.

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The rings

by Jonathan Drake in

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friends

i'm sure someone somewhere has asked this question, but along with the contempt written on morris face i've also noticed the club ring.

im sure you've all noticed it.

does anyone have any insider information on the gold rings they where?

Jonathan Drake

I'm sure someone somewhere has asked this question, but along with the contempt written on Morris face I've also noticed the club ring.

im sure you've all noticed it. Does anyone have any insider information on the gold rings they where? It's not all GB members, it seems to be just higher ranked people- at some point they get their ring and then they start their celebrity life.

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Apocalyptic 2 Esdras 2

by Doug Mason in

await your shepherd; he will give you everlasting rest, because he who will come at the end of the age is close at hand.

be ready for the rewards of the kingdom.

... receive what the lord has entrusted to you and be joyful, giving thanks to him who has called you to heavenly kingdoms..

Jonathan Drake

All Christians and Jews consider Ezra and Nehemiah to be canonical. Jews, Roman Catholics, and Protestants do not generally recognize 1 Esdras and 2 Esdras as being canonical. Eastern Orthodox generally consider 1 Esdras to be canonical, but not 2 Esdras. The Jewish Apocalypse of Ezra is part of the Syriac and Ethiopian traditions and in the Apocrypha of the Armenian Church.

CAUTION: the above was taken from wiki - not necessarily trustworthy.

This would make sense. According to the bible the original purpose was for the Jews to accept the messiah. But they didn't. It makes sense this could be a vision of the end of that era where the Jews accepted Christ. But as it became more apparent they would not, and then they didn't, the means by which the purpose was to be realized changed.

So I have trouble seeing what this proves, even if it resembles revelation. If it was an older writing than revelation from a source other than Jewish or Christian in nature then there would be room to make an argument.

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